they department get susan rice and put michelle in at defense. some wanted. you talk about the photograph, but let me share another photo. this one, this was the original photo published in the times taken december 27th. the white house countered with the second photo. the same for the president. you have -- you can spot them here. >> where the girls are. >> this is the oval office. as you point out and talked to the white house, they are defensive here. >> they are. they are defensive about it. it's dleer they don't like the pictures that don't show a lot of women. they argue that women have a lot of input and they are important. by the way, janet napolitano runs security and you have susan rice at the united nations. it's not as if this is a wasteland without women in this d main station. my sources say that they haven't filled the commerce job. then you put someone in the situation of say a woman is appointed to fill commerce, the question is asked, did she get that because she was a woman? >> or is she the best qualified. >> i think the people are obvious